It was actually laughable - he told me it needed a new engine - 14K PLUS labor. His advice was to just get a new car. So, I'm out that $175, sadly, and with no satisfaction and now certainly no loaner. He said even rebuilt would be 10K. I mean, really. So, I had a conversation with a friend about it, discussed options, and then called a Studio City auto repair jernt that I've been to before. When I told him what the car service guy had said, HE laughed out loud. I gave him the make and model and year of the car and he'll call me tomorrow to tell me what he can do it for. If it's reasonable, I'll probably do that and have him fix the other stuff that's wrong. If not, then I'll either get a new car or a lease.